View Full Version : KNO3 + HCl
December 20th, 2002, 07:27 PM
This is a very simple method of synthesizing nitric acid, you should mix them in equal parts, and heat gently. It will start to bubble, this is chlorine gas being released( hold your breath...). The hard part of this is to seperate the remaining HCl from the HNO3. This I think can be done by boiling off the nitric acid into another container then letting it recondense(I haven't tried the seperation part yet, I will probably try it sometime today or tomorrow then I'll let you know how it worked).
December 20th, 2002, 07:58 PM
God Damn you are an idiot. First off new topic as first post!!!! Read the FUCKING rules :mad: . Secondly mixing HCl and KNO3 will not give you HNO3 ( i am pretty sure) xCl + HNO3-> xNO3+ HCl so obviously if your reaction works you get HNO3 + KClwhich in turn reacts to give you what you started with. The equilibrium favors the HCl not the Nitric. Learn how to read the rules and if your lucky they wont block your IP just your nickname.
December 20th, 2002, 08:12 PM
...you're wrong..., it does work, i have done it myself. I know that it will start to react back, but it will reach an equillibrium which i think will be about 50/50(though i'm not sure) which is why you would need to get rid of the excess HCl and KCl and KNO3 to have the pure stuff. If I am in fact wrong then I am very sorry and I will try not to let it happen again, but from my limited knowledge and experimentation this formula has worked. If you want to see a longer topic where this is discussed look here <a href="http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=308" target="_blank">http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=308</a>
btw: the rule about first posts is that you can't ask a question, it does not say that you can't post a new topic.
<small>[ December 20, 2002, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: Anarchist ]</small>
December 20th, 2002, 09:01 PM
Anarchist... you should read the rules more carefully. There are already posts that deal with the synthesis of Nitric Acid, in fact Pyro500 (It was him, right?) has a wonderful PDF file all about synthesizing Nitric Acid from -NO3 salts. From what I have read, the reaction works much better using Sulfuric Acid instead of Hydrochloric Acid.
Oh well; for me, it is the thought that counts. But that is not the case with angry Nazi forum admins <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . I don't expect for you to see much sympathy when an admin stumbles upon this, if for your name only (Anarchists are not well-liked here).
<small>[ December 20, 2002, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: MrSamosa ]</small>
December 20th, 2002, 09:08 PM
I know the one with H2SO4 is much easier and better, but for me sulfuric acid is next to impossible to obtain, while HCl is very very easy and cheap. So I thought for anyone else who had the same problem as I it might be nice to know how to make it an alternate way. I am also sorry if this formula was in pyro500's pdf, I haven't read it yet, but i will probably read it soon.
btw: about my name, I am not the k3\/\/| kind of anarchist, I don't think we should all go blow up government buildings, I am a real anarchist not some stupid punk cookbook kiddie. I don't want to blow up any buildings or assasinate any government leaders( though it is fun to plan out how to do the perfect assasination).
December 20th, 2002, 11:06 PM
The only thing that might save you is that your not the average run of the mill kewl. You seem to know a bit. That 'No first posts as new topics' thing seems to be an 'unwritten rule' (I haven't seen it anywhere, but everyone seems to know it). But who knows, the lord...err...mods work in mysterious ways. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
December 20th, 2002, 11:22 PM
I'm sorry for uh.. anything and everything i guess. I thought it was only that you couldn't ask questions as the first post. Had I known, I wouldn't have done it.
December 20th, 2002, 11:29 PM
Well, it's not really against the rules when you provide info. That's why your getting yelled at by members and not the staff :)
December 20th, 2002, 11:34 PM
Using the name "Anarchist" here is tantamont to waving a red flag in front of a pissed off bull. :)
So, given your first post being a new topic, plus the name, it's back to square one for you.
However, since you didn't get all bitchy about it, and you're spelling wasn't retarded, you're not banned. Sign up with a new (less "k3Wl") name, and you can have a second chance.
And post in existing topics for a while first, eh? :)
Angry Nazi Admin...new title? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
<small>[ December 20, 2002, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: nbk2000 ]</small>
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